Sailopnik?

"E. Julius" (soonerfrommi) 12/11/2014 at 11:30 • Filed to: boatlopnik

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Obviously we're fans of all things motorized, but does anybody enjoy moving over water without the help of an engine?

Here's me and my dad in our CL16

And here's something to keep it car related

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 11:33

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The environmentalist part of me does, for sure.

HammerheadFistpunch > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 11:35

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Sailing - The art of going nowhere slowly at great expense.

E. Julius > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 12/11/2014 at 11:36

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I love a good power boat too, don't get me wrong. Wondering if this was something anybody else was interested in.

T5Killer > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 11:37

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What is a boat? Wait water can stay and not evaporate?

(From New Mexico :p)

HammerheadFistpunch > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 11:37

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on a more serious note, I am a huge fan of the AC cup boats, both 40 and 72. Also, I am big fan of the space efficiency of sailboats for living space. I desperately want a small sailing yacht, something on the order of 28-32 feet.

ACESandEIGHTS > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 11:40

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Yes, I have a real fine canoe. Powered by the most refined and efficient engines ever desgined: my torso, abdomen and arms

HammerheadFistpunch > T5Killer 12/11/2014 at 11:40

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pffft, get back to me when you are the driest summer state and the 2nd driest average state in the nation new mexico...sincerely, Utah. Also, Nevada says hi.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 11:40

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Large boats are my only irrational fear so not so much. Unless it was sailing on a lake where there arent any larger ships.

E. Julius > HammerheadFistpunch 12/11/2014 at 11:42

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The cup boats are unbelievable. I'd love to get the chance to see some in person sometime. Agreed on the live aboard thing. If the stars align and we live somewhere where it's possible, my girlfriend and I would love to try living aboard. Any specific models you've looked into?

Grindintosecond > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 11:42

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Have my favorite.

ACESandEIGHTS > T5Killer 12/11/2014 at 11:42

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Wait water can stay and not evaporate?

This man is putting you on. To wit: New Mexico is home to the southernmost ski area in the United States (Ski Apache).

Ya ta hey: it is a good day to wear a helmet. I'll tell anyone who'll listen.

yamahog > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 11:43

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My sister was a sailing instructor and captain of her college's search and rescue team. I prefer to have friends with boats than to have a boat myself.

E. Julius > ACESandEIGHTS 12/11/2014 at 11:43

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Love canoeing! Wood, fiberglass, or aluminum?

HammerheadFistpunch > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 11:43

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Im in Utah so my prospect for live aboard are low at the moment hence I haven't done any serious shopping, more window browsing.

ACESandEIGHTS > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 11:46

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The future, son: plastics. I ain't too proud to say so. Would I love aluminum? Hell yes. Would I buy a fiberglass boat? Bet yr ass. But I've got what I've got and for now for a flatwater boat it'll do.

I can portage it by myself and not worry about scuffs so I'm pretty happy with it.

T5Killer > ACESandEIGHTS 12/11/2014 at 11:46

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LOL Hence the :p

E. Julius > HammerheadFistpunch 12/11/2014 at 11:48

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Ah ok. The viable places for living aboard full time are pretty limited, unless you have a geographically flexible job. I'll probably end up staying in Michigan, but it's difficult to keep a boat in the water during winter there, not to mention all the work you have to do to keep it livable. Go too far south and it's hot as hell, not to mention the risk of hurricanes. I'd like to say it's more than a dream, but personally I don't find it too likely, at least not in the near future.

Argent > HammerheadFistpunch 12/11/2014 at 11:48

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My dad used to own a 23' San Juan. He got it for less than $5000, and dock fees were usually $50/Month. so sailing doesn't have to be expensive.

Here in coastal NC, pretty much everyone lower middle class and up owns some form of boat. Unfortunately, we haven't had many chances to go sailing since my dad sold that boat. It was loads of fun!

E. Julius > ACESandEIGHTS 12/11/2014 at 11:49

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Nothing wrong with that. Where do you canoe for the most part?

E. Julius > Argent 12/11/2014 at 11:52

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I love those little keel boats! My girlfriend and I have often dreamed of moving to NC and getting something like that.

E. Julius > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 12/11/2014 at 11:53

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I mostly do dinghy sailing on inland lakes, so not much to worry about besides jerk–off teenagers in ski boats who don't watch where they're going.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 11:58

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I've hired a small motorboat in the Lake District here before and that was pretty good, but the only other stuff you really encountered were other similarly slow motorboats and rowing boats.

Argent > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 12:21

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Yeah, NC is pretty great for small boat owners! The Pamlico Sound is pretty shallow (~5-6ft), so no large ships, and it's pretty calm, as long as you plan ahead when it comes to summer thunderstorms. A fun weekend trip we did a couple of times was sail from the inner coast to Ocracoke (part of the Outer Banks). Start out Saturday morning on the 4 1/2 hr trip at 10 knots, moor the boat on the calm(er) sound side, spend the rest of the day on the seaside beach (literally a 5 min walk from soundside to seaside), camp or get a hotel room overnight, then sail back on Sunday. Ahh, the memories!

E. Julius > Argent 12/11/2014 at 12:23

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That sounds incredible.

justAnother G6 > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 12:41

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I have been going on an annual sailing trip for the last 8 yrs or so in the Apostle Islands. Smallest sail boat I have been on is a 27' Hunter all the way up to a 42' Bennetau. You may not move that fast relative to any power boat but when you are heeled over fighting the wind to stay on course or trimming sails to get just a bit more speed it sure is a hell of a lot more fun.

MonkeePuzzle > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 12:51

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the monkey love love LOVES to sail!

our family has since before I was born owned this late 70s Caper Cat. Purchased brand new, along with two others, and pulled from Brisbane up to Weipa, Australia's northernmost town, with one on the roof of a 240 Volvo wagon, and two stacked on the trailer (did you see the Top Gear Australia episode? very similar). There was not much to do in a mining town, so the three boats were insanely popular.

pics from a more recent outage

E. Julius > justAnother G6 12/11/2014 at 13:13

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For sure! I remember sliding down the deck of a Beneteau First 310 at full heel, barely catching myself on the rail on a close haul with 20 knot gusts. The sheet for the headsail subsequently broke, and I had brace myself on the bow pulpit and tie up a new while we cut through all the chop. How do you like the Hunters? I've never been on one.

E. Julius > MonkeePuzzle 12/11/2014 at 13:16

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There's nothing quite like cat sailing—I wish I could do more of it! I've spent a a little bit of time flying hulls on a buddy's Hobie 16 (with the inevitable accompanying pitchpole as well haha). Love vintage boats like yours!

BorkBorkBjork > E. Julius 12/11/2014 at 14:25

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When I was younger I had a Hobie Cat (a 17 sport I believe), and I loved it. It consistently scared the crap out of me so I eventually stopped sailing and sold it. My biggest fear was tipping that thing over and burying the mast in the bottom of the lake.

E. Julius > BorkBorkBjork 12/11/2014 at 14:29

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Yeah my buddy ended up turtling his, even with the floaty bulb on top. Fortunately there was no damage. Then there was the time a shackle on the forestay snapped when he was going out on an 18 knot day. All that sail area can definitely put the fear into you.

Conan > E. Julius 12/12/2014 at 06:52

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Some of my best times have been on the water. Somewhat annoyed I moved further away from it. My Grandpa did what is effectively sail based endurance racing so I should further the family tradition somehow.

E. Julius > Conan 12/12/2014 at 06:59

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Do you know what races your grandfather competed in?

Conan > E. Julius 12/12/2014 at 07:05

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Most known? America's Cup. Most Oppo/Jalopnik/Sailopnik? The Mackinac. http://www.cycracetomackinac.com/ Most legendary/LeMans/insane? Whitbread Round The World Race (Now Volvo Ocean Race) (corrected by Dad, Grandpa just got to see parts of the Sunday Times race).

E. Julius > Conan 12/12/2014 at 07:22

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So wait, did he compete in any of those? If so, that's fucking awesome. Two of those are like the premier sailing competitions in the world, and the Mack is one of my personal favorites. I've seen the start and the finish a few times, it's always a good sight.

Conan > E. Julius 12/12/2014 at 07:29

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43 Mackinacs, 2 Whitbread races, and he was an alternate for one America's cup. I was confused on whether he'd done the Sunday Times race. Dad corrected me and said he just watched it (crazy enough).

E. Julius > Conan 12/12/2014 at 08:23

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That's damn impressive. Where do you/did he hail from? Somewhere in the MI/IL area or did he travel to do the Mack?

E. Julius > Conan 12/12/2014 at 08:27

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Also, agreed on Mackinac being the most Sailopnik of the races you've mentioned.

Conan > E. Julius 12/12/2014 at 08:35

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Grandpa/Dad are from Chicago. Lived on Sheridan Road.

justAnother G6 > E. Julius 12/12/2014 at 12:19

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Hunters are setup pretty nice for cruising. Overall we have had be best speed out of some of the older ones ('95 or older) mostly due to being able to point that much higher into the wind. Sailed on my first Jeanneau this year, very nicely appointed boat but it just seemed sluggish no matter how we trimmed.